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Like a glove.
Like a sock in a shoe.
Like a cock in a sock
Like a good neighbor
Like a light in a socket
Like a midget at a urinal.
Would've been easier and cheaper to plough straight through!
Assuming you could see that no cars were in danger, this is what you should do if you’re in this exact situation. Then pull over and tell highway patrol what happened and wait for them to make an an accident report.
I would imagine that by the time you realize you've lost control you'll have already swerved enough to hit the concrete
Or have Trailer-ABS (if that's a thing).
It is, but it won't save you once you start jackknifing like that. The fix is throttle and trailer brakes.
So basically you need more braking on the trailer than on the truck?
Jackknifing happens if the trailer is going faster than the truck. It can’t go straight through as it’s hitched, so instead it swings around.
But yes, you are correct. If the truck is faster than the trailer it will pull it straight.
A bit of tug and stretch
Yes there’s a lever you can spike the trailer brakes with but not activate the power unit brakes.
First question why did he come in so fast to a toll booth they aint random pop up shops ?
Second question why didn't he just pull the parachut and wrench the trailer break lever ?
As a truck driver for me this is a very strange video, beyond reversing truck and trailer through the toll booth this person did absolutely every thing you can possibly do wrong whilst driving a combination hopefully this driver is off the road.
Basically me every time I play ETS
Forgot your exit? Well have fun trying to turn around, otherwise your cargo will be 15 hours late.
Be careful when driving into town. You won’t know you’re on city property until you turn the blind corner, see the 50kph marker, and get ticketed for speeding faster than you can say, “Increase retarder.”
Also, in the meantime, here’s the most inopportune time for your character to want to fall asleep.
(Edit) Oh, your trailer seems kinda long, let’s have your route go through a half clover leaf, you know, the entrance to the motorway that jackknifes your trailer if you turn too narrow but hits the car coming from the exit if you try to circumvent that.
-Magically warps himself to the garage-
Yeah I definitely play with traffic fines turned off in that game. My goal is always to go full on Smokey and the Bandit. Hours at a stretch with my foot pinned to the floor, slowly accruing velocity as I blast through the farm lands. It's great.
Fantastic mental image of a stubnose trailer picking up km/h/h like a total boss as horses and cows slowly look up from the fields.
Km per hour per hour?
You measure acceleration in distance/time2 so he’s implying the person he replied to was increasing his acceleration. In reality acceleration would stay the same when he’s flooring it and only the velocity would change which is just measured in distance/time
The thing I love about Euro Truck Simulator is that it allowed me to determine in a safe, legal way just how many drinks I can have before I am no longer safe behind the wheel of a big rig.
The answer is zero. I am instantly become Long Haul, Destroyer of Worlds, crusher of hopes, dreams, and 4 door sedans.
I am not cut out for semi-truck life. But it was a great learning experience.
The real gold is in the comments as always
I have a new thing I want to try. Thanks
It's so good, seriously. Get a USB steering wheel. Get a gear shift. Mount them well on a desk and settle in with a 6 pack of good beer.
We were actually taking turns, as a drinking game, where every accident means drink and pass the driver's seat. And drinking as passengers, of course, and calling out directions to each other while getting drunk cruising down the virtual streets of Europe completing trucking contracts and saving up for a nice new cab with better brakes and a cherry red finish.
Shit. I didn't think I was going to be nostalgic about ETS today. Great times, excellent memories, silly game that's weirdly fun for how much like actual work it is.
i feel this on a spiritual level
Disables speeding fines
Goes 90mph full throttle down the highway
"Get the fuck outta my way! Gotta get these tomatoes to Berlin as quickly as possible and get my XP bonus!"
Truck with 9t of tomatoes at 240km/h on Autobahn creating a massive black hole behind.
They say it’s about the journey, but we all know that it’s about the destination.
Also T-boning small cars and paying a 400€ fine for four people reduced to tomato soup
Driving for four hours to reveal that the [?] is just another recruitment agency.
kills family of five
does 47 in a 40 zone
Disable the fines and truck speedlimiter in the settings and just smash your way through the traffic! You'll never be late again!
imagine what you’d do in this situation. Love to speak to the person driving and ask what the aftermath was like
Toll booth came outta nowhere! If it was a dick it woulda bit me!
Not sure what kind of dick you have but good luck to the ladies.
Clearly someone with the male version of vagina dentata
Normally you speed up.
Basically the trailer is going faster than the truck. It’s called fish tailing, because it looks like a swimming fish. By speeding up, you stabilize the trailer and can then attempt to slow down properly.
If there were no cars on the other side of the toll booth, the best solution would simply to have blown through the gate, making a safe complete stop, Then contact highway patrol and inform them what happened and then deal with the consequences of having broken the toll booth gate.
I'm pretty sure what we see here is the attempt of the driver to fix it. That's why he goes so fast through the toll station.
He has probably tried to stop before the station, the trailer didn't and slithered around, driver tried to fix it by going faster again, then this happens.
I would release the brake and just let it roll trough the toll and maybe only damaging the idk what its called in english
Yes, that opens when you pay..
The gate is what opens when you pay. The thing the trailer slams into that separates the lanes is the barrier.
Not being a dick, just want to help you understand what the words are in English in case you were confused😊
In the home of English it's a barrier, a gate is entirely different. If you want to be pedantic it's a rising arm barrier.
The thing separating the lanes is armco crash barrier, or armco for short.
Safer to run the toll booth.
I could see the bridge was lined with bears
But I didn't have a dog-goned dime.
I says, "Pig Pen, this here's the Rubber Duck.
"We just ain't a-gonna pay no toll."
So we crashed the gate doing ninety-eight
I says "Let them truckers roll, 10-4."
We got a mighty convoy
Rocking through the night
We got a mighty convoy
Ain't she a beautiful site
So come on and join our convoy
Ain't nothin gonna get in our way
We're gonna roll this truckin convoy
Across the USA
Definitely thought of this. My friends and I always joke about Convoy & CW McCall in general at school
First thing I thought... wouldn't the penalty for running the booth be significantly lesser than this...? or he could've just stopped just ahead of the booth and pulled over... idk, maybe there really was some catastrophic mechanical failure.
Fuck speedlimits right? Not like there's a reason for it.
You mean it's not a lower limit?
I don't necessarily think they were speeding. On dry pavement it wouldn't have been an issue.
But it's fair to say "Too fast for the conditions."
Not sure if they were speeding but the driver certainly thought he was going too fast. The trailer swerved out like that because they were braking too hard. The trailer had too much momentum and swung outward. You have to brake (or down shift) early and slowly especially if whatever your towing has a lot of weight to it.
well said and what about trick for braking in cars?
The best trick is to brake early and gently. The second best is to swerve where you will cause the least amount of damage.
The third is to full commit into a ramp, preferably only on one side of the car so you can lay out some sweet air and a gnarly spin for the onlookers.
Idk if you're being serious or not but, always try to look a couple cars ahead of you if traffic is congested and always try to leave 2 seconds between you and the car ahead of you(I know you can't do this in some areas because people zip in front of you if there is space but try and leave some space at least.) One of the main reasons to look so far ahead of you is that you can see if cars are starting to slow down or if they swerve to avoid something in the road you'll be prepared to make defensive maneuvers. Try to put yourself in a situation to never have to slam on your brakes, always assume the person ahead of you is going to slam on their brakes at any moment and give yourself enough distance to stop.
If you're driving on highways/interstates try your best to avoid being behind trucks that have things in their beds or on trailers(I know it's unavoidable sometimes) people's trailer hitches fail, people's ladders fall off, people's empty buckets fly out of the truck, it happens and it's best to assume it's going to happen while you're behind them.
Driving in residential areas always keep an eye on front yards at least half a block ahead of you, and drive under 25(I know it's slow and you're in a hurry) young children have a bad habit of darting into the street after a ball or some other toy without paying any attention to the cars driving down the street. If you see any sort of lights on in parked cars in front of you pay extra attention to them because there is a good chance they are about to pull out in front of your car without seeing you or they are about to open their door and you'll hit it. On that same note if you can see someone sitting in a parked car pay attention to them and remove your foot from the gas pedal and hover it over the brake in anticipation for stopping abruptly.
I drive around town for about 8 hours a day delivering auto parts and I see countless people paying little to no attention to how they're driving and I have to avoid bad driving constantly. So far the only time I've had an accident in my 3.5 years driving for them was because another driver wasn't paying attention and changed lanes into my work truck....
This is gold bro thank you so much
Please share more, I'm learning so much!!
This can be a real problem with empty or lightly loaded truck and trailer units - the trailers generally don’t have abs so if there’s not enough weight and the brakes come on too hard the wheels lock up very easily and you end up in a slide
ppl seeing the speed limit like a target
Would have been wayyyyy better to burn through the toll and get a ticket than what just happened here.
Some speed limits signs yes. But some speed limits are just maliciously set. Like 55/65 mph straight shot highways, 70 mph highway when entering the lovely state of Virginia with their swarming police, and God damn 3 lane super wide roads that have trees in the median but the speed limit is 25 mph coming of the fucking highway
Obviously, the driver is going too fast, but shouldn’t that rear trailer have brakes? Seems like the guy getting fired should be whoever hooked that trailer set up. If it was the driver than that would be a double hit.
That was my first thought as well. The trailer shouldn't fishtail like that if it's braking... unless the cab itself is braking significantly harder than the trailer maybe?
I don’t see any brake lights so the electrical to the trailers may have failed completely.
The wet road certainly didn't help either.
I was thinking that this whole thing looks like a legitimate accident. Hate to see someone eviscerated in the comments if they were actually trying and didn't do something wrong, and there's not enough video to make a complete judgement.
Brakes on a semi are air powered not electrical.
Right, but something electrical controls the air brakes right? I know there are compressor hoses and electrical connections on the back of the tractor that ordinarily connect to the trailers to control all that stuff, but I’m not familiar with the specifics.
So there’s actually two brake systems. The service brakes and the spring brakes. Service is the braking system you apply with your foot or trailer brake handle and spring is the parking brake. The air compressor builds pressure to hold the spring brakes back while the vehicle is being used. So if that system fails the brakes will engage and stop the trailer. The service brakes are air powers as well but they push the shoe against the drum. Most of the system is air powered and I can’t think of a situation where a lost connection would do anything but make that rear trailer slam to a stop.
The only electric control a truck has over the brakes is through the ABS solenoids. Pushing the foot bake is all air.
And the rear trailer wheels were locked up, causing it to slide like that. Very light or empty trailers can do this very easily on slippery road conditions.
Trailers, especially doubles, break lose very easily under hard braking situations.
I think either the rear trailer's brakes failed, or its wheels lost more traction in the rain than the front trailer's and cab's.
You'd typically want to distribute most of the weight closer to the cab, right? Could that have resulted in a much lighter rear trailer that lost traction more easily?
It had brakes... And that was the problem. He braked too much and the trailer started gliding, which ends really bad with this type of trailer because it acts like a scissor.
I’m pretty sure the trailer wheels locked up. It might not have ABS.
Seems like the guy getting fired should be whoever hooked that trailer set up.
Even if it wasn't the driver, they're responsible for checking it.
Tandems have brakes on each chassis, drivers always hook up their own air lines and are responsible for equipment to be working in good order before transport. A trailer will swing out under heavy breaking if it's a light load.
I hate when these are shown with no way of knowing what actually happened. Could’ve been an air system failure, those s-cams fuck up pretty easily, or hell if some dips hit fleet mechanic does a piss poor job adjusting the brakes during a routine pm you can find yourself in this situation. But, no, it’s just an idiot in a car and let’s all point and laugh. I mean, it could be, but who knows.
No one's getting fired. I'm Canadian, that looks like freezing rain, it will be 100% covered by insurance. What you can't tell is he applied the breaks, and when freezing rain is on the ground, applying the breaks just does not work, it is in fact the moment you lose control. Not that he had any other option.
Ah the Ol’ toll booth split. Farmer’s covered it April of ‘08
Can we get a shoutout to that attenuator for doing its job brilliantly?
Black ice the silent killer
I hit a patch of black ice a couple winters back. Just driving along taking my time due to visibility issues in a snow storm. It wasn’t sticking and things just looked wet. Plenty of people were going faster and I hadn’t seen any cars off the road yet.
The next thing I know my car is doing a credible impression of a vinyl record before leaping down an embankment and hitting a tree. Gotta love old crown Vic’s. I had to get help getting it back in the road from a gentleman with a 4x4 truck but after that I drove it 70 miles home. It’s ugly but after bodging in a new headlight I’m still driving it.
I actually was a mechanic at a shop that worked specifically on trailers so keep your snarky comments. He obviously braked too late. My point was that ABS does serve a purpose and is extremely helpful. Unlike what some one commented above.
You key board warriors are hilarious.
I saw someone say it doesn't look like the trailers brakes activated properly. Would you agree or disagree?
That’s very possible. On a lot of semis the sensor is designed to apply pressure and let off and apply when it sees the exposed part of the sensor has stopped spinning. ( to stop them locking up ) They get dirty or could have just plain quit working.
The driver could also could be an idiot.
Very possible human error haha
What if he was delivering milk shakes? No harm no foul here.
That. Was.... AWESOME!!!!!
Trailer ABS failure without a doubt
Someone wasnt paying attention..
Coming in hot!
He thought he was playing euro truck simulator
Nailed that 7 10 split..I can never manage to pull that off.
How I got Peyronies Disease
Coming in hot!
Frankly, the damage isn't too bad. The bollards did their job and the actual structure is fine. Almost all the damage is to the trailer and whatever is in it.
Probably a teamster and therefore cannot be fired.
I’ve watched this prolly 50 times now and to me it almost seems both driver and equipment are at fault. Yes the driver should have slowed at a greater distance but it appears there maybe a failure with the breaks on the dolly and two trailer axles. Slowing like that should not have caused the trailer to drift to one side. Only reason for trailer to drift to one side is either the driver side breaks were weak or the passenger side breaks were too tight, causing wheel lock up and pulling trailer to one side. Source: I maintain semis for the small company I work for.
I can't see brake lights, I would guess that his trailer lost air pressure. That's what those brakes are supposed to do when they lose air. Sometimes safety stuff creates more problems. Abs actually increases braking distance to keep steering control, but is dangerous as fuck in snow as it doesn't allow the snow to create a wedge in front of the tire.
What I learned in CDL school is that the rear trailer in a double/triple set-up will try to jack knife when you lock up the breaks.
Those are the brakes!
If truck drivers got fired for every accident, there would be a lot less truck drivers.
Me playing Euro Truck Simulator
Yeah. Whoever put that stupid blockade there is getting fired.
He went for the red turbo mario kart style.
Got the video freezing right before impact. Made an excellent « to be continued »
Doesn't freeze for me but I can see what You're saying and I agree
He tried, unfortunately, he failed... miserably!
Ah that'll buff out, no need to involve my insurance or call my supervisor. Give me hand with this will ya?
I always see this type of shit, people LOVE to speed and slam on the brakes at the last second.
But... But in the movies it actually works! What stupid world is this?
Cleanup in aisle 2, I repeat cleanup in aisle 2.
Slippery when wet.
Coming in hot!
Tbh, that's visibly slippery asphalt, shouldn't be like that in predictable breaking zones, I bet the tyres are quite worn as well
It wasent on purpuse? He was trying to stop before it was too late (on dry roads)
Tolls are so obsolete. At this point it's down to privacy issues.
The rain ?
Mario kart be like
De Ja Vu
Get off your phone driver!