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This really “nice guy” who was always uber nice to me and always had a kind word, messaged me one night when I was having a meltdown over one of my cats. I had got on every social media account I have to call for someone to help me. My eyes were blurry, my face hurt, I had a busting headache from panicking and this mother fucker offers to “help” financially and “something a bit more naughty could be arranged ;)” as I’m having a god damn meltdown over what I assume is my cat dying before my eyes and me not able to do a damn thing for her.
It completely upended the entire ‘helping vibe’ and I felt like I was being exploited at an incredibly vulnerable moment by someone who just offered me to prostitute myself for financial help (when I’d actually panic asked for a vet or vet tech who could tell me how to fix the issue, not money). I had made it clear I was trapped with no car, no vets open at 3 am. But all he saw was an emotionally and physically vulnerable person and tried to use that to get pics out of me. I never felt comfortable talking to him again and every time he messages me, I feel absolute disgust.
Fucking deplorable asshole. Did your cat survive?
She did and healthy as ever.
That's great! Good to know your cat is still alive, healthy, and probably as playful as ever.
Strong kitty! glad to hear it!
I had some points, when I was a younger man, that I was pretty depressed over being a virgin at 18, and did some pretty pathetic things to try and convince women to sleep with me. Things that make me cringe, and things I have vowed to look out for in my son, so if I ever notice him having trouble getting a relationship as a teen, he doesn't tie his entire worth to whether or not he is in a relationship. He's only 3, so I hopefully have some time before that becomes an issue, lol.
But holy shit. I never struck at someone when they were vulnerable. I guess I had plenty of chances, because I was always playing therapist for friends, who were girls, when they were having a really hard way. It just always struck me as a REALLY bad idea to try and catch some pity sex off of someone who was in pain.
This "nice guy" you're talking about sounds like an absolute bag of shit. The only thing I could ever hope for him is that he realizes just how fucked what he did was, and uses that to move forward to become a decent person. Unfortunately, I know too many people with this type of manipulatives, opportunistic, and downright predatory personality. I've only seen one person ever change, and it took them losing nearly everything they held dear, literally, to realize that their path was incredibly destructive.
It was weird seeing someone go from a cocky, ultra conservative asshole, to someone who actually learned empathy, and has extended their belief in the inherent worth of others beyond just the aspect that personally affected them.
I am so incredibly sorry that this happened to you. Virtual hugs.
What an absolute pile of garbage.
I had something like this happen not twice but three times in high school. One of the times, I needed a ride home because i missed my bus & had no other way home, and a guy from my class pulled up and was like oh ya i can give ya a ride home. and so as we pulled up to my house, i offered him gas money & he said nono id prefer a service ;)))) and i was like ew wtf no & i jumped out and he yelled out of his car, “at least send nudes when you get inside!”
Thankfully all men are not like this, but it always amazed me how some males because they aren't men to me could turn everything into sex. Even moments like this where someone with actual feelings and empathy would be comforting you they would only be thinking about themselves and their penis.
I don't mean to be vulgar but I always felt like guys like this should just be walking penises, and it wouldn't even be an insult to them they would probably be proud because it's their pride and joy and aside from other bodily functions their main focus.
oh dude it's absolutely astonishing, one time i had an anxiety attack while me and my (then) fwb were about to have sex and he continued to grope me as i was crying and pulling away. i don't even think he ever realised he was doing anything wrong. when i brought it up months later, he said he had thought i didn't mind and that i hadn't said stop.
Yes I've gotten that one too. Sometimes even said with anger like why are you complaining?
wow, just fucking wow
Yes, that's when you really need your self esteem and remember your value because some of them can really make you feel like low without even trying.
the shitty part is you might not even be in any condition to react properly, and then you should be able to trust that this other person has empathy and wouldn't take advantage of your temporary weakness - like in this case with the homeless girl. but apparently that's too much to ask.
i've had this kind of situation with both women and men where i've been in the "position of power" and it never even crossed my mind to act like this. it's kind of repulsive to even think of in that light. a human being is in distress for fuck's sake.
Im so sorry. The same happened to my sister but the guy continued to sleep with her after she said no and wasnt going to participate. He continued while she laid there and cried. It happened to her multiple times. The same guy would make sexual comments towards me in front of her and another friend said he tried to use weed as a way of groping her. I hate these types of scum.
oh my god, i'm extremely sorry to hear that, it's genuinely shocking to read. how is your sister now? did the dickwad ever get arrested?
Did you say stop?
no. what sort of question is that. i was having an anxiety attack, crying and physically pulling away. stop is bloody implied if you have the brain capacity of a pigeon.
I had a feeling “what sort of question is that” would be the response, but it’s no secret that men aren’t the most intuitive creatures, and when sex is on the table, sometimes mankind’s best intentions take a back seat.
And before you ask “what’s your point?” I don’t have one. I was just curious. Thanks for answering!
Nah man, my ex had severe anxiety and some PTSD from being sexual abused, and panic attacks happened a couple of times despite our best efforts to build a safe happy space — and guess what? Panic attacks are pretty obvious, and the disassociation after certainly “kills the vibe” regardless: anyone who needs a verbal “stop” during that is garbage imo.
This is a shitty cop out. Men aren’t retarded, so don’t put your lack of situational awareness on our entire gender, thanks.
Whether she said stop or not, there's no excuse.
Nothing says going your own way like trying to pay homeless women to suck your dick.
That would make a brilliant throw pillow
This is total predatory behavior. Even thinking like this is dangerous to others.
Wow, what a piece of shit. She might have turned him down anyway. When I was a teen I was briefly homeless and had to panhandle and I was propositioned, always by much older men. I always said no, for all kinds of reason, mostly my own safely. I could have run into a monster like this.
I can relate too, as I left home as a senior in high school with no place to live lined up and no plan whatsoever. Had grown ass men offering me money for sex. I still said no. Love how the original poster arrogantly assumes just because she’s homeless she’d go for someone like him
Edit: I remember one man saying he’d let me live with him rent-free if I did all the household chores with my top off. Really just speaks to the kinds of people they are
reading this makes me wish he did proposition her. imagine what it would it do to an incels self esteem if even a homeless woman rejected him.
These kind of men can go their own way to hell, they will not be missed.
The kind of people that almost makes me wish hell existed. But then again, once they're gone, they're gone so that's good too.
Pathetic piece of shit:
-Sees homeless person
-Immediately thinks about how he can exploit the situation to get sex
-Probably wonders why he is single afterwards.
-Makes post about it.
The cycle continues...
Capitalism isn't sexist guys, because women can make it TOO! (By using their bodies as commodities)
Oh no, that creep is standing for office not far from here. Argg
If you see him irl, please egg him
I don't usually have eggs on me, but I could bombard him with peer-reviewed journals, which I hear are his personal Kryptonite
TBF capitalism isn't sexist. 4/5 top gunrunners are female today. Here in 'Murica, we'll reward anyone who has no conscience with money.
TBF that doesn't demonstrate that capitalism isn't sexist.
It kind of does. It women aren’t being discriminated against as a rule, it’s not sexist. Capitalism allows women to rise high. They just have to act the way capital prefers.
Oh, shit. So having to be "one of the boys," sucking it up and pretending it didn't happen when a boss creeps on you in order to hold or advance your position, getting paid less than a male counterpart... I guess these issues don't actually exist in capitalism, anymore?
When did that start, just this morning? It's still early here so we probably haven't gotten the news but holy shit this is exciting!
Oh, shit. So having to be "one of the boys,"
So do the boys.
sucking it up and pretending it didn't happen when a boss creeps on you in order to hold or advance your position, getting paid less than a male counterpart... I guess these issues don't actually exist in capitalism, anymore?
These all happen under every economic system.
So your argument is that capitalism isn't sexist because other things are also sexist?
Or is your argument that capitalism isn't sexist because you're the arbiter of what is or isn't sexist?
Or did you make kind of a blanket statement based upon your own very personal convictions about the sanctity of capitalism, and now you realize you really need to figure out a way to sufficiently rationalize it?
Bootlicker. Capitalism is trash
I'd make fun of them for always "nearly" doing heinous shit, but now that they've murdered people it seems better not to bait them.
"back when I was about 21 and horny all the time." Aren't you supposed to stop being horny all the time after about...17?
Realistically guys in their early 20’s can still be pretty horny but generally a normal person would alleviate this issue by masturbating or finding a healthy relationship and not by acting like a predacious creep.
I'm in my 30's and still horny all the time, my wife is too. Thankfully someone invented male and female birth control.
But when we can't get it on with each other, we resort to masterbation, not coercing homeless people into sex.
Ehh, no. Puberty continues for guys sometimes till their early 20's. Even the "being horny all the time" thing can last till someone's like 20
nope, some people stay pretty horny throughout their 20s as well, somewhat dependent on the reproductive capabilities. I can attest to the fact that my own libido was somewhat lower at 17 compared to now (I'm 21) even despite being asexual, pretty much like feeling hunger but not at all interested in the food that's available...
I'm a woman and I was definitely horny all the time for the first couple years of college. It slowed down by about 23, but most people I knew who were also horny all the time didn't abuse vulnerable people so he's still full of shit.
Yeah, because there's no such thing as gay prostitutes.
Honest to god degenerate.
Takes a real special piece of shit to exploit the needs of someone who has fallen on hard times.
It's not like there aren't plenty of sex workers who willingly consent and make this their business. You don't even have to humiliate or exploit a homeless woman, you want to because you're trash.
Going their own way.
Putting your dick in the mouth or any other hole of a homeless is not a good idea.
Dude you have every right to be pissed off, but don’t stoop to their level. You’re so much better than them.
Dude, c’mon. Rule 2.
Yeah they’re a bunch of psychotic fucks. Doesn’t mean you’re not acting shittily.
You’re just adding fuel to the fire and giving their persecution complex merit. Idgaf about your moral worth but your actions aren’t congruent with your desires, you fool.
You’re equating encouraging people to kill themselves with my calling you a fool. That’s dumb, but they’re two separate issues. I’ll grant you calling you a fool isn’t a good way of convincing you.
You say you don’t care what I think of your morality but you keep defending your choice to encourage mass suicide. The latest reason being “I was nice for a bit but it didn’t solve the problem”
I mean people who say that about Islamic extremists are also fools who are contributing to the ever hastening radicalisation of angry young men.
If that’s how you feel, fair enough, I don’t know you or what you’ve been through. I’d say at the very least don’t say it though, because you’re just worsening the problem.
I’d also like to point out I’ve never said incels aren’t completely batshit or dangerous. Just that you shouldn’t encourage them to kill themselves.
Anyway, I have work in the morning so I will fuck off.
And yet there are survival/pimped/"Just doing it for the booze/drug money" sex workers who would probably put up with the abuse that some bitter "incel" or Man Getting Triggered Over Women would subject them to.
Isnt that like normal prostitution? Edit: why do you downvote me for a question?
It's coercion and exploitation.
Propositioning somebody who's in an extremely vulnerable and desperate state who ISN'T even soliciting sex is absolutely predatory.
All sex work is exploitative under capitalism. This follows from two simple principles:
Sex work is work
All work is exploitative under capitalism
Anyone dumb enough to be following Marxism in 2019 should be sterilized.
Wow literal fucking eugenics ...... And here I thought "scratch a liberal and a facist bleeds" was hyperbole
Coercion and exploitation are big parts of normal prostitution. Edit: why do i get downvoted.?
There's no such thing as "normal prostitution" it varies from place to place, person to person, situation to situation.
Coercion and exploitation are unfortunately a serious and common problem in regards to sex slavery (obviously) and people who are pressured into it by other people or bleak life circumstances.
However plenty of sex workers enjoy their work and elect to do so because they want to.
I honestly think the sex workers who enjoy their work are in the minority.
I don't doubt it nor was I claiming otherwise.
There are a significant number of sex workers out there who do so genuinely consensually, that was my only point.
I believe you. I just try to understand what qualifies as incel and what not.
Yeah, but you could say a minority of people actually enjoy their work... period. So that statement doesn't really say a lot, not enough to support your point. Because not enjoying your work isn't the same as...slavery, for example. Not enjoying something does not say anything concrete about how you ended up doing that something. You could argue that there's a greater likelihood that it wasn't consensual, but not definitely.
I have escorted in the past. I didn't enjoy it (but I'd take it over camming ever again, ugh). But...I wasn't coerced. No one asked me to do it, no one pressured me to do it, and I didn't NEED to do it. As in, there were no active consequences if I didn't do it. Like, I wasn't going to be hurt by someone else, I wasn't going to be homeless, I wouldn't go hungry or suffer, etc. I never felt backed in a corner.
And I didn't struggle with stopping. I just stopped scheduling clients. (I worked for myself, no one else was directly involved.) So while you could say I deeply deeply disliked it (because I dislike sex I think)... it didn't scar me. I was deep in heroin addiction. That shit scarred me lol. But hey, at least it was honest work and I wasn't stealing from other people.
The thought of going back to it not of my own free and 100% drive and will IS terrifying, though.
Are you clean now? If so congratulations, i am happy for you.