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No one is 'manipulated' by a baby. Babies are cute and generally pretty weak. So people want to make themcomfortable. I'm sorry seeing a dad carry his daughter is too cucked for you.
Actually I'd say that everyone is manipulated by babies, as there is an evolutionary advantage to finding your offspring cute and wanting to protect them.
It goes without saying, however, that the babies don't do it intentionally.
And also it's not just the girls doing it.
My son is crazy good at manipulation. He's 3.
Yup, worked in multiple daycares. Babies regardless of gender start learning what gets a reaction starting at around 6 months. It's crazy the things toddlers do once their parents came to pick them up because they knew their parents wouldn't say anything anymore and us teachers were no longer the highest authority figure.
Less manipulation and more of that instinct to protect and comfort the "soft squishy mini human"
Never mind that little boys do the same thing because, gasp, they’re toddlers.
Technically adults are manipulated by babies, most humans are hardwired to protect or care for them and will react in different ways to make sure a baby is happy and safe.
But fudge-nugget incel doesn't get, is that it isn't a conscious effort, it's an evolutionary mechanism for survival that about every baby is hardwired to do.
It's also why cats meow, it simulates the sound of a baby crying so we get manipulated into doing what the cat wants.
yo imma bout to beat my cat for playing me .... damn you think you know a guy
we’re also manipulated by our own getics because we are hardwored to answer to a baby’s call.
if you have gentics you’re a cuck
It's also why cats meow, it simulates the sound of a baby crying so we get manipulated into doing what the cat wants.
Kittens (of both genders!) are really good at manipulation, just like human toddlers. It's obviously not something they're plotting to do.
Well, cats only meow so humans can hear them. A majority of communication between cats are at levels that humans can't hear.
Cats also think of us as cats, unlike dogs who specifically know we aren't dogs, so when cats meow it's like they're talking to someone they think is stupid or hard of hearing.
Cats know this and will use sounds to get us to feed them, play with them, let them go somewhere they can't get to... And so on. So while babies don't have the mental capabilities to plot per say, the older cats do specifically use these sounds to get what they want.
Cats are cool, actually, many scientist don't consider cats to be domesticated (there's an argument on both sides). One of the cool things is that humans only started to specifically breed them within the last 100 years which is why there are so few specific house cat breeds compared to dogs, who have been bred for fucking ever. Dogs needed structure to be our friends, we just kinda threw wild cats into buildings to kill mice and we tend to get along well enough that we started to keep them around like dogs.
I love this comment so much! 💗
But, she'll grow up and gang-banged by chads every day, having a daughter is the ultimate cuck. /s
jesus christ its obviously sarcasm, own the joke and dont put /s
I've seen incels post stuff exactly like that
you haven't been on this sub for very long if you think there aren't people who are actually serious and genuinely think this is true... 😔
Not in this subreddit. There are lots and lots of different incels around who pretty much say what I just said verbatim. Except non ironically. Not in the mood for my inbox to get blown up because people actually think I believe that shit.
Poe’s law dude
Don't tell us how to Reddit!
Dude. It’s a baby. Babies don’t even have object permanence. They can’t walk, they can’t speak. They are literally defenseless. They can’t manipulate, you waterlogged sock puppets.
You leave the sock puppets out of this, they haven’t done a god damn thing to you.
Seriously, if a baby is able to play "mindgames" on you, that says way more about you than it does about the baby...
It makes it sound like Incels want as soon as you pop a baby out that it should independent and start paying for bills and shit. No free rides for toddlers!!!
Sounds like most anti-choicers, too. 😒
I mean, I'm a special education teacher who's worked with every age from preschool to currently high school. While the guy in the post is pretty much just shit to the brim, kids do absolutely know how to manipulate people, even if they aren't accutely aware of what they're doing.
Kid wants something but can't communicate that? They cry until a parent gives in. Do it long enough and they'll just associate bad behavior with getting what they want. May not be overt manipulation when they're in preschool, but trust me. Right now I'm in a high school, and we have students who still have this mentality ingrained in them.
But can it really be called manipulation in regards to literal infants that can’t speak? They can’t form words, so their only option is to scream for someone to help them. When a kid can talk then parents should start teaching the kid “Hey, you use your words nicely” to get things instead of throw tantrums and scream.
Do you work with non-verbal students? I personally would consider this a form of communication rather than manipulation - if they are incapable of asking for something verbally and have not been shown/taught any other method of communication, than this behavior IS their communication. I feel it's unfair to accuse these students of being manipulative when they're just communicating in the only way they know how....
I've worked with a number of non-verbal students. I would agree that most of the time, it's moreso just adaptive communication. However, I distinctly remember one kid who would always, without fail, glam up the cute factor for new staff members (me) so that he could get stuff that he knew he wasn't supposed to. And then he'd throw a fit when the other staff clued people in. That was definitely manipulation. Also it's kind of a testament to how smart non-verbal kids can be, contrary to what a lot of society tends to believe.
Fair enough. Sorry for jumping to conclusions, I also work with non-verbal students a lot so am accustomed to having to explain this to people.
Not to nitpick, but the example in the text is clearly not a baby - it's a probably preschool child able to walk.
Do we even know if this child is a girl? All I see is a child happy because they’re hugging someone they love. Also, science tells us that babies are not developmentally capable of ‘manipulation’.
Of course a baby is gonna say “I don’t want to walk” and cry, then be happy when they’re carried by their dad.
That’s not manipulation, that’s being kind to your baby daughter
Dude obviously doesn't have kids.
My four year old son will lie down and say "oh dear mummy my legs are broken now, you have to carry me" and looks extremely pleased with himself when I pick him up because I don't have time to argue 😂
These dues obviously don't have functioning faculties or souls.
Their hate is so deep that it even poisons their view of tiny babies.
bUt MgToW iSn'T aBoUt HaTiNg WoMeN!!!11
I'd like to believe that some of these people are not unredeemable and that if they backed the hell away from the echo chamber and really thought about what they're reading and saying they would realise that it's all absolute nonsense.
But I'm naively optimistic at times.
I like the idea of optimism.
Then I remember how many times my own has been disappointed.
But, hell, everything's possible. I really hope you're right. That it's just a phase for most of these assholes, that they're bitter and lonely and they're just craving a place to thrash and scream and kick their little legs and flail their arms but eventually they'll have the epiphany it's bullshit.
I really hope so.
I think we've all said and done things in our lives that we regret or look back on and cringe.
So Im trying to stay optimistic that they'll back away one day and realise how toxic all the garbage being spewed is.
Right, like kids have little legs and can't walk as far or as fast as adults. Plus most babies/toddlers just like being held by their parents. And they often smile at their parents too. Although I do think my 14mo old manipulates me. I've been trying to ween her off nursing but she learned how to sign "milk please" and it's so god damn cute I can't say no.
Oh no... that is cute.
-baby wants to be held
-Dad holds baby
-baby smiles because it's being held
This is how babies actually control the entire world and censor anyone trying to reveal the truth!
My little brother did this shit... is he a girl now?
This post made me realize my son is actually a girl.
Caring for an infant is so cucked. Infants can totally care for themselves, don't let SJWs tell you otherwise. /s
When a dude helps his wife take care of their kid 😂😂😂😂😂
You know the SECOND you turn your back, the moment he leaves the house, they're running off into her arms. Hell, they'll do it in front of you! Yet you'll keep feeding the kid, giving them all your money and time, only so you can share them.
It's the ultimate cuck.
If it's good enough for snakes, it's good enough for humans.
"It's just natural selection if the baby dies"
Considering the baby is dressed in blue (and people assign colors to genders), there's a good chance that baby is a boy.
Can anyone proove that, the baby in picture is not a boy? 'Cuz i can't.
Boy babies do exactly the same thing. Unless you know the assigned gender of a baby, you would never be able to tell them apart.
Right lmao, like what do they think baby boys do? Sternly scowl, stand up, totter to the closet, put on a button-down and neck tie, and then drive to work so they can earn money and take care of themselves? Lmfaooo
I think there was a commercial advertising a car with that premise.
Of course. Have you not seen Boss Baby?
can you imagine being jealous of the care and attention people show to literal helpless infants, viewing it as some kind of unearned reward for manipulation instead of, idk, normal human interaction? this is a window into a bizarre world i'm very glad i don't inhabit.
in other news i had a dog who would beg to be carried (and he was not a dog made for carrying) for, i swear to god, the chance to look smug at the other dog. i found this cute and hilarious at the time, but i see now i should have found a forum to get mad about it on instead.
I dunno. I just gave my 2 month old daughter a bottle and she’s sleeping in my arms. I get to hang out with her and get baby cuddles before I start my work day.
I used to consider this the best part of my day, but now I know the truth that I’ve been manipulated the entire fucking time. It’s all just one big fucking act! Thank god the incels are here to open by eyes.
And what do little boys do differently?
I guess boy babies are just born knowing how to walk. The extra muscle mass? dIfFeReNt BiOlOgY oF tHe SeXeS
(And god knows entitlement and manipulation are total strangers to the male gender LOLOL)
What the actual fuck is wrong with these people? How do they function? Are they okay?
I don't get it, are women masterful manipulators from birth or are they useless holes who serve no purpose beyond making babies that men have had to drag through society?
Infant boys never do ANY of those things...
No, of course they don't. Instead of crying to be picked up when they're to tired to walk, an infant boy will get up off their arse like a real man, grab their fathers car keys from the kitchen table, go outside, get in the red convertible that daddy definitely didn't buy because he was overcompensating for anything, and put the pedal to the fucking metal! Anything else would be gay.
That's just... like... how babies work.
They can't do anything so they make noises so that adults will take care of them and stop them from dying.
That's the entire baby thing. That's the baby agenda. It's the whole baby situation.
So there IS a baby agenda? I KNEW IT.
It's so weird how they're talking about infants, and yet they're the ones pissing their pants.
Just imagine being so emotionally fragile that you get this triggered by babies doing baby things.
A baby has gas and a psychotic MGTOW assumes she is manipulating dad. That's a baby, dude, she just learned to hold her head up, she isn't yet capable of complex reasoning. Honestly, I thought it was bad enough when they saw a little girl and screamed 'whore' but to attribute these things to a baby us a whole new of evil nastiness. These guys are the super villains of sleaze.
Their level of paranoia and delusion is impressive.
That is SUCH A CUTE BABY 😭
It disgusts me that these creeps ever get to lay their nasty, pedophilic, objectifying eyes on innocent little baby girls.
Also, the literal point of babies being cute is so that people take care of them. It's a defense and safety mechanism. It exists for babies of all species, including male babies.
Incel: "tHiS bAbY iS a mAnIpUlAtInG tHoT!!1!"
Like... how do they NOT realise that this is what babies do? They cry at their parents to get attention. Babies. All babies. Not just the "girl babies". Jeez.
Thks reminds me of Augustine lmao he says like the exact same thing in the Confessions... and then later swears off women holy heck he's an mgtow for Jesus
Can you imagine being so hateful and paranoid that when you see a baby you think “oh boy! It’s out to get me” lol what a sad life
So, to all you incels:
I'm genuinely sorry your dad never hugged you.
I seriously question if any of these people have ever even attempted to get a girl to go on a date with them, like, just ask and if you look vaguely normal and presentable and she's single there's a good chance of at least one date happening
Those guys minds are sooo fucked up... oh god.
Bruh. That's a baby. Like, there's nothing more that I can or should say. That's a baby.
I mean, given her age, she's probably shitting in her diapers.
Which is more than I can say for incels.
It’s posts like this that make me consider that maybe incels are right and I do want them all eradicated.
They can’t even keep their sexual perversion away from literal infants.
Beyond the mind-blowing psychopathy of the sentiment that little baby girls are somehow manipulative, the whole idea of female manipulation gets shattered when you look at it objectively.
Being a female myself, you learn pretty young that you COULD potentially manipulate people if you wanted to, using looks, charm, whatever, but 99.999999% of us DON'T use this tactic in any way because it tends to be really frowned upon, makes other people hate us if they even see the slightest whiff of it, and it doesn't seem fair, and therefore just feels really wrong. You also realize how very fucking dangerous it could be to do this, as the reality is that even the slightest hint of "flirting" with a man or even dressing a certain way, etc can be used to justify all kinds of horrible acts including rape, stalking, harrassment, etc.
If women in general actually used looks, charm, helplessness, whatever, to get things the way Incels or Mgtows and other assorted misogynists think we do, the world would be a very different place.
Other women are usually pretty shitty to other women, too. If they notice you doing this you’re basically ostracized from the woman community.
This guy has not even met enough people in general to make ANY assumption. Those stories come from an inflamed mind
This isn't new read the words of some of the founding fathers of the Christian Church. Many woul be considered incels and mysogynists today.
These people shouldn’t have kids. They will abuse them and most likely abuse the mother too.
Imagine getting this triggered over a beautiful baby smiling.
" She looks at her mom and smirks" had me dying lmao honestly would be hilarious to see that.
Imagine seenig kids smiling or doing simple little things and thinking they are growung up evil or something..lol
What an attention whore! /s
This might be the stupidest post yet.
How dare a little baby want to be carried by her father!! So MaNiPulAtIvE!
Imagine being so mentally fucked that you think babies doing baby things are being manipulative.
Only rarely I get mad, but this... are you fucking serious?
Incels are just jealous that Chad is carrying his child and not them in his strong alpha arms lol
at least one day those MGTWOcels would die off because normal children are apparently, the scum of the earth
These dudes are so nuts. The amount of craziness I see in that comment section is insane
Manipulation orrrrr complex social evolution?
Dude you need help.
MGTOW can't help themselves from talking about women again.
And dankmemes is starting to increasingly smell like incel too
Babies are ALL manipulative, it's in their fucking nature. Crying gives me attention! So imma cry!
My sons are so manipulative. They want to be held and loved all the time, and god they never shut up, just talk talk talk. Do they ever cook dinner? NO! And the little one even makes me wipe his ass.
Its so fucked up how babies want things and can't talk so they cry and then when they get what they want they stop crying and smile. So manipulative. Damn smart ass babies.
I mean...children in general can be pretty manipulative. Moral development doesn't actually start to happen until around 2 or 3, and even then it's mostly self-centered until at least age 10. Thing is, it's not conscious - kids act like that because they don't know any better.
Incels don't have that excuse.
So... Typical parenting and taking care of your own descendence is... Bad?
I find it mind blowing that even 13th century poets portrayed women as less manipulative than these dudes. Not just that, but they portrayed them as people.
As someone whose dad was manipulative towards me in childhood, screw these people.
All babies absolutely do things to manipulate their environment.. that's literally so normal???
They're saying this as if naturally manipulative men don't exist lol.
Oh god how can they be so delusional?
Thankfully these creeps will never reproduce.
This guy's masculinity is so fragile it's threatened by a tiny baby.
Way to project you own bitterness and insecurity onto a bloody child, you moron.
Also: Any parent will tell you that children small enough to get tired and be carried are terrible at manipulating. Yes maybe they'll try (but not like in your cringe-inducingly deluded description) over some things, but they don't have the mental machinery for serious guile, and they're awful at the level of body language control required for deception
Well my father evidently never cared about me, so I probably need to take a manipulation class or two.
this is the most pathetic fucking logic I’ve ever seen in my life.
Sick. Cute baby, tho.